Srila Prabhupada, His Movement & You


Letter to New Initiates

Dated: 8 October 1993

Dear Kaliya-Krishna dasa:

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

As rittvik representative of the Acharya Srila Prabhupada, I am initiating you on Prabhupada’s behalf, as Prabhupada authorized me to do in his letter dated July 9, 1977. Also this initiation will demonstrate and establish the point that Prabhupada wanted his disciples to act as rittviks, not as gurus.

My godbrothers have taken it FOR GRANTED that because they were acting as rittviks in Prabhupada’s presence, that it was therefore GRANTED to them to assume the office of guru acharyas upon his disappearance. But it was NEVER GRANTED by him. The GBCs and others took it FOR GRANTED, without authority. It has caused havoc. I shall demonstrate that what Prabhupada wanted was for his deputed rittviks to continue to be rittviks in his physical absence, which he specifically mentioned to Tamal in conversation and per letter to me, dated July 10, 1977 and again in a letter to Kirtanananda, dated July 11, 1977 and in numerous conversations with his disciples during his last days.

When the rittvik matures and understands his everlasting subordination to his spiritual master, then he is seen as a full guru. But at that time more than ever he is fully conscious of his duties of initiating on behalf of his spiritual master and all the spiritual masters in the disciplic succession, all the way to Krishna.

At the present moment, everyone thinks in terms of “Is he my disciple, or is he Prabhupada’s disciple?” Why this emphasis on the possession of the disciple, as opposed to emphasizing the service performed for Prabhupada and the disciplic succession?? POSSESSIVENESS is the disease, the cloud covering the sun of Prabhupada’s brilliant and TRANSPARENT mercy.

Although rittvik initiation is an officiating ceremony, no one should think it is simply a show or a rubber-stamping someone to be a disciple of Prabhupada. No! When Prabhupada was present, the GBCs, temple presidents or sannyasis who initiated disciples for Prabhupada were accepted as representatives of Prabhupada, and their authority was very effective, because both the representative and newly initiated disciple had a TRANSPARENT CONSCIOUSNESS of seeing Prabhupada as the source of spiritual life and the ultimate authority behind everything. So I am not the guru, but I am the guru’s servant, his rittvik representative.

One may ask, “Then why rittvik? It all comes down to the same principle of surrender, service and DISCIPLINE to the rittvik representative.” The answer is that one is designated as rittvik because it is understood the person in question is still immature and subject to fall under the influence of the material nature. But he is being prepared or trained for perfection by giving him the office of deputy of the acharya, so he can gradually mature and become perfect. Perfect means fully PURIFIED of the tendency to enjoy wealth, woman and most of all PRESTIGE, or the lording-it-over tendency. Perfect means he perfectly understands that everything he does he does on behalf of his spiritual master and Krishna.

Thinking, “I am a guru” is the sure sign of MAYA, just as thinking “I am God” is the ultimate illusion.

If a person seen as a rittvik falls down due to losing control of his senses, there will be no RUPTURE in the life of the disciple, because he has from the beginning understood his relationship with Srila Prabhupada, the SAMPRADAYA ACHARYA. He can continue to progress in spiritual life under the guidance of another senior godbrother.

Under the present arrangement, where imperfect, conditioned souls have postured themselves as liberated, pure devotees, thereby misleading and misdirecting the delicate faith of new devotees, a DISASTER takes place when such illegitimate gurus fall down, or even if they exhibit doubtful behaviour, as it was in my case years ago.

All this can be and will be avoided if senior devotees simply follow the arrangement made by Prabhupada for initiation, namely act as rittvik representatives of the acharya, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. We are doing that, and it is very joyful, because it is the authorized arrangement of the Sampradaya Acharya Srila Prabhupada for continuing the disciplic succession.

Even if someone is in the most exalted state of realization, why would such a person insist on the pomp and posture of a great devotee? Even the Supreme Lord Chaitanya presented Himself as the most fallen, humble and meek servant of the servant thousands of times removed.

Actually, unless a person has been properly initiated by someone acting strictly as the rittvik representative of the SAMPRADAYA ACHARYA, Srila Prabhupada, his so-called initiation is more or less a kind of KIDNAPPING THE DISCIPLE AWAY FROM THE SHELTER OF THE LOTUS FEET OF SRILA PRABHUPADA, THE SAMPRADAYA ACHARYA, AND KRISHNA. Such kidnapper gurus and their unfortunate disciples fall down from the devotional path in due course of time, just as a tree that receives no water loses its leaves (disciples), dries up and dies. We have seen this phenomenon repeat itself again and again in a long list of so-called gurus, myself included. However, such dead gurus and disciples can be brought back to life simply by situating themselves properly in the rittvik initiating arrangement made by Prabhupada. The current re-initiation syndrome practiced in ISKCON is trying to correct one mistake by making another mistake.

Your humble servant,
Hansadutta das

P.S. With great emphasis, I want it clearly understood by all devotees there is to be no vyasasana for me, no vyasapuja, no pranamas, no Mercedes Benz, no pictures of me on any altar, etc. All such exhibition of regard and affection should be offered to Srila Prabhupada only, the deliverer of all fallen souls, Acharya of the Brahma Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya, otherwise known as ISKCON.


I wish to offer my most humble apologies to the following persons, whom were initiated by me in the years 1978-1982 and do humbly suggest if they are so inspired that they may be initiated properly by a rittvik representative.

[Note to anyone who was initiated by Hansadutta and whose name is missing from this list: Please email . Some names may have been left out inadvertently, perhaps overlooked by the typist. Please accept our apologies.]

  • Anuttama devi dasi (AliceTrechsel), 23 May 78, Berkeley, California
  • Adi Savara devi dasi (Lisa Bose), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Akrura dasa (Allan Walden), 27 August, 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Abhimanyu dasa (Alton Steen), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Annapurna devi dasi, 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Arjuna dasa (Arturo Ardo), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Achyutananda dasa (Amado Garcia), 11 February 1979, Cebu, Philippines
  • Ananta devi dasi (Almabel), 11 February 1979, Cebu, Philippines
  • Anniruddha dasa, 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Ajamila dasa (Angelo Bellach), 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Anandamaya dasa (Abraham Sprinsock), 15 July 1979, Portland, Oregon
  • Ananta devi dasi (Angela M. Villafane), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Anantarupa devi dasi (Amurengam), Singapore
  • Atreya Rishi dasa (Arman Daes), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Adi Purusham dasa (Adonis Cunanan), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Agnideva dasa (Adolf Miller), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Amburish dasa (Ambrose), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Archi devi dasi (Andre Marie Louise Frechette), 1 February 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Amritananda dasa (Antonio Mesina), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Alanath dasa (Amado Cruz), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Akarma dasa (Allan Pinalosa), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Ananda dasa (Allan Ramirez), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Acharya dasa (Adrien), 7 August 1982, Berkeley, California
  • Bhaktijivananda Swami, 18 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Buddhi devi dasi (Karen McGarther), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Bhakti Yoga devi dasi (Bess Stafford), Portland, Oregon
  • Brahma Samhita dasa, 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Bhrigu dasa (Brian Hickman), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Bharata dasa (Bill Blimpton), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Balabhadra dasa (Tito Abando), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Bhima dasa (Chan Hoe Beng), 11 February 1979, Mayapur
  • Balarama dasa (Benlal Maharaj), 15 August 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Bali Maharaja dasa (Bing Edwin Javier), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Bhakta dasa (Bong Quinto), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Bhisma dasa (Bernardino Crespa), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Bindhu Madhava (Balachandran), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Brahmananda dasa (Benjamin Ladyong), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Bharadvaja dasa (Benjie Madrigal), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Bhavani devi dasi (Isabelita Macabasco), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Brajabhumi devi dasi (Tan Bee Lan), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Bhaktivinoda dasa (William James Shay), 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Brihan Naradiya Purana devi dasi (Bernice Nieto), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Bhagavad-gita dasa (Bill Godwin), 13 August 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Bhavani devi dasi (Barbara Slaughter), 13 August 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Buddhi Yoga dasa (Bernie McCaffrey), 13 August 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Bilvamangala Thakur dasa (Bhasker Vilva Roy), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Chintamani devi dasi (Crystal Wierzisicki), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Chandrabali devi dasi (Cheri Schlenz), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Chandrashekar dasa (Christopher Ostrowski), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Chanchala devi dasi (Clare Schlichting), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Chanchabala devi dasi (Cheryl), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Chaitanya devi dasi (Claudia Zinman), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Chaturmasya dasa (Carlos Maribojoc, Jr.), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Chatur Buja dasa (Calixto Paderna), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Chaitanya Charitamrita devi dasi (Cindy), 28 January 1979, Seattle, Washington
  • Chaitanya Lila dasa (Christopher M. Herrick), 15 August 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Chandrabali devi dasi (Corina Marie Beach), 2 January 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Chaitanya Rasa Vigraha dasa (Ven. Meetotamulle Chandra Siri Thero), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Charanamrita devi dasi (Carola Lustig), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Chaitanya Bhagawat dasa (Edward Rodrigues), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Chaitanya Charitamrita dasa (Carlos Drio), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Champak devi dasi (Corazon Murillo), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Chintamani dhama dasa (Cristito Ramones), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Chaitanya Chandrodaya dasa (Charles Marantz), 1 February 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Charanaravindam dasa (Charles John Castelli), 8 March 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Chitahari dasa (Carl Schertz), 8 March 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Chaksusa dasa (Carlito Maribojoc), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Chandrika devi dasi (Eugenie (Candra) Harris), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Chaitanya Mangal dasa (Charles), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Chitralakhai devi dasi, 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Chandramuki devi dasi (Clare), 13 February 1982, Berkeley, California
  • Chaitanya Mahaprabhu dasa (Cliff Gomes), 13 August 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Chandrashekar Goswami (Christopher Ostrowski), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Chaitanya Chandra dasa (Rajendiran A.N.), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Dhanvantari dasa (Deric), 23 March 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Draupadi devi dasi (Diana Bear), 23 March 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Divyadristi devi dasi (Debbie Warsaw), 23 March 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Dharmaraja dasa (David Burgess), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Dhruvanath dasa (Daniel Carryon), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Dhruvanath dasa (Dennis Lock), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Devarsi dasa (Danillo Magno), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Damodar Pandit (Delmasio Cardona, Jr.), 11 February 1979, Cebu, Philippines
  • DasDasanudas devi dasi (Diane Schmitt), 30 March 1979, Seattle, Washington
  • Daruka dasa (Douglas Paul Smith), 15 July 1979, Portland, Oregon
  • Devananda dasa (Don Rogers), 9 September 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Devahuti devi dasi (Dolly Rogers), 9 September 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Dhira Krishna dasa (P. Deivendran), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Dristaketu dasa (Del Ocampo), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Dasavatar dasa (Danny Clemente), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Dwarkesh dasa (David Kemnitz), Seattle, Washington
  • Devadatta dasa (Doraisamy), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Daiva Shakti devi dasi (Doris Bellock Johnson), 1979, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Dhruva dasa (Danny Babanto), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Dandavad dasa (Daniel Caldona), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Dvarakadish dasa (Deovanie Mutya), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Damodar dasa (David Sherman), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Damodar dasa, December 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Dhaumya Rsi dasa (Dipak Sagar), December 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Dhananjaya dasa (T. Darmarajah), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Devadatta dasa (Dante Oscar), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Dhanur Veda dasa (K. David Cook), 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Dvarakadesh Gosvami (David Kemnitz), 17 April, 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Ekadasi devi dasi (Emma Reyes), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Ekanath dasa (Edwin Murello), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Eka dasa (Edgar Sarmiento), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Ekam Aksaram devi dasi (Edna Alo), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Gita Govinda dasa (Alfred Hillerbrant), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa
  • Govinda Kund dasa (Gilbert W. Francis), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Gaura Nataraja dasa (Frank Giubardo), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Gopasundari devi dasi (Gail Pellicci), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Gopijana Ballabha devi dasi (Sharon Barry), 28 January 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Gauraraja dasa (Raja s/o Govindasamy), 11 February 1979, Mayapur
  • Gauranga Duti Pada dasa (Glen K. Koenig), 13 March 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Gaudiya Vaishnava dasa (V. Govindasamy), Singapore
  • Guru Parampara dasa (Guru-Nam Singh), Singapore
  • Ganga devi dasi (Gomathi), Singapore
  • Goswami dasa (George Grego), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Gokularani devi dasi (Feliza Gica), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Govinda dasa (George Tumulac), March 1980, Mayapur
  • Gopi devi dasi (Genevieve Lagonera), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Gaurakishor dasa (Joseph (Babaji) Smith), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Ghandari devi dasi (Jeanne Borgan), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Gopal dasa (Sheik Kahn), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Hamsa dasa (Hermoso Bascug), 10 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Hari dasa (Henry Francis Newman), 30 December 1979, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Haripada dasa, 1 March 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Hari Kirtan devi dasi (Henny Beckert), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Haripada dasa
  • Vraja Hanuman Goswami (Huber Robinson), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Indira devi dasi (Imelda Torres), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Imli Tal devi dasi (Ingrid Seim), 8 March 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Ilavati devi dasi (Eleanore Clemente), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Ishvari devi dasi (E. McCaffrey), 13 August 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Jñana Vigraha dasa, 24 March 1978, Mayapur
  • Jaya Madhava dasa, 24 March 1978, Mayapur
  • Jagannath dasa (John Blumette), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Jahnava devi dasi (Jane Butler), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Janaki devi dasi (Julianne Rogers), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Jagadisha Pandit dasa (Joel Siegel), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Janamejaya dasa (Jack Lewellen), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Jotindra dasa (Jim Manning), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Jagannath Puri dasa (Jim Redfield), Portland, Oregon
  • Jagannath Swami dasa (Jerry Macchia), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Jagannatha Priya devi dasi (Janette), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Jaya Radhe devi dasi (Jane Garvin), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Jaya Deva Gosvami dasa (Jojit Pineda), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jaya Nitai dasa (Jesse Reyes), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jñanasindhu dasa (John Joseph Hammel), 26 November 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Jadabharata dasa, 28 January 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Jaya Gauranga dasa (James M. Shouse), 13 March 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Jagadguru dasa (Joe Eaton), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Jagat Guru dasa (Jackie Chan Yiu Kin), 28 September 1978, Hong Kong
  • Jamadagni (John Fewel), 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Jayanti devi dasi (Julia Hertz), 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Jagannatha Prasad dasa (Jeganathan), Sri Lanka
  • Jivanath (S. Jagannatharajah), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Jaya Sachinandan dasa (Jose Davalos), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Japa Mala dasa (Jesus dela Pena), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jaya Gurudev dasa (Jan Jacinto), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jahnava devi dasi (Julieta Ferrer), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jotila devi dasi (Joselyn Maribojoc), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jayananda dasa (Jose Clemente), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jaya Radhe devi dasi (Joanna Redfield), 9 November 1980, Portland, Oregon
  • Jagannatha Swami das (Richard Jones), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Jambavan dasa (James Melvin Koenig), 1 February 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Jagaddatri devi dasi (Jeanie), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Jugalapriti devi dasi (Juanita Brown), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Jita Krodha dasa (John Charles Johnson), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Jaya dasa (Jun Bartulaba), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jadabharat dasa (Joseph Macasero), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jalangi devi dasi (Jelly Soco), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jotiramayee devi dasi (Tessie Concha), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Jatayu dasa (Joselito Jose), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Jaya Vijaya dasa (Jun Torres), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Jagannatha Misra dasa (Jose Enriguez Lo), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Jagadananda dasa (Jan), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Jayasri devi dasi (Judy Ann DeBrown), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Jadabharat dasa (Jerome), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Jayadeva Goswami dasa (Jose Nadac), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Jagatananda dasa (Jeff Dalton), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Kapiladeva dasa, 28 March 1978, Sri Lanka
  • Kapilasva dasa (Kabuli Bunkenheimer), 1 March, 1978, Schloss, West Germany
  • Krishna Balarama dasa (Kreon Valentin), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Kusala devi dasi (Kathryn Ruesink), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Karunakshi devi dasi (Caroline De Rooy), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Kilimba devi dasi (Kim De Rooy), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Kubja devi dasi (Mary Jane Anderson), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Karuna devi dasi (Carolyn Koszczymski), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Kamadhenu devi dasi (Kathy), 28 January 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Kuruksetra dasa (Krishna das), 9 September 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Krishna Kirtan devi dasi (Kellie Marie Flesher), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Krishna Chaitanya dasa (Krishnan Sankaran), Singapore
  • Kaliya Krishna dasa (Kaliyana Sundaram), Sri Lanka
  • Kripa Sindhu dasa (M. Karalalingham), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Kalki Avatara dasa (Kelly Andrew Thompson), 1 February 1981, v
  • Kunti devi dasi (Elizabeth delVillar), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Keshava dasa (Krishnan s/o Vengadasamy), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Kulashekar dasa (Krishna Arumugan), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Kali dasa (Kaniappan Poomalai), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Krishna devi dasi (Kimberly Anne Young), 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Kasiraja dasa (Kayambu Nathan), 19 March 1982, Vrindaban
  • Krishna Balarama Goswami (Balram Sharma), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Srimati Krishna Stuta devi dasi, 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Laxmipriya devi dasi (Louise Isabelle Leven), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Lila Smarana devi dasi (Lisa Towle), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Lila Suka devi dasi (Lola Garcia), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Laxminath dasa (Lawrence Smiley), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Lokanath dasa (Larry Becker), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Lavanya Mangala devi dasi (Lorraine Sakharov), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Langhanaksama devi dasi (Lynne Walden), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Lila Avatar dasa (Lauro Buenaventura), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Lokanath dasa (Leno Mueblas), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Lalita devi dasi (Lilian Beltran Lim), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Lomasha Rishi dasa (Larry Ratcliffe), 4 August 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Lalitakunda dasa (Larry Mathews), 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Lalita Madhava devi dasi (Linda Lundgren), 9 September 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Laxmi Rupa devi dasi (Lekshmi), Singapore
  • Leelamrita devi dasi (Lathi), Singapore
  • Laxman dasa (Larry Verdis), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Lilavati devi dasi (Elizabeth Trinidad), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Lanka Vijaya dasa (Leo Garialde), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Laksman dasa (Joseph Louis Maltais), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Lila Avatar dasa (Louie Garcia), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Laghu Bhagavatamrita dasa (Lynn J. Walker), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Laxmi devi dasi (Lynne Armstrong), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Loka Saranga Goswami (Mick Kund), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Mahesvari devi dasi (Mary Humbert), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Maha Mantra dasa (Michael Rodebaugh), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Mahabhagavata dasa (Marc Johnson), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Murari dasa (Neil Gross), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Misrabhagavan dasa (Michael Illo), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Maharani devi dasi (Martha Dickinson), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Maha Laxmi devi dasi (Marie Macchia), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Maha Muni dasa (Mark Marrett), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Mohini Murti devi dasi (Mary Lou), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Madanasini devi dasi, Berkeley, California
  • Madana Mohan Mohini devi dasi (Marylynn Ubal Muenlas), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Mahavishnu dasa (Mark), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Manohari devi dasi (Muriel), 28 January 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Mukunda dasa (Emerito Evangelista), 11 February 1979, Cebu, Philippines
  • Murti Man dasa, 28 February 1979, Vrindaban
  • Markandaya dasa (Mark I. Buddier), 15 July 1979, Portland, Oregon
  • Maharani devi dasi (Mayra Nunez), 2 January 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Mahavishnu dasa (Michael Lustig), 30 December 1979, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Mahakala dasa (Mohan), Singapore
  • Mahashakti devi dasi (Margaret Goh), Singapore
  • Mahapurana dasa (Mario Bautista), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Maharati dasa (Martin Edler), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Meru devi dasi (Aurora Javier), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Mahakala devi dasi (Martina Riepgerste), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Mahamaya devi dasi (Marcelina Miloren), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Mahadevi dasi (Marietta Argallon), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Mahabhagavata dasa (Manny Villanueva), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Madhumangal dasa (Marty Bugala), 9 November 1980, Portland, Oregon
  • Madhavendra Puri dasa (Myles Morgan), 9 November 1980, Portland, Oregon
  • Mahaprabhu dasa (Miguel), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Madan Mohan dasa (Merril Herbert Snell), 8 March 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Mondakini devi dasi, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Menaka devi dasi (Michaelmarah Graney), 8 March 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Mrgendra dasa (Eddi Taripe), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Madhavilata devi dasi (Marites Cruz), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Manimanjari devi dasi (Mahyet Medrano), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Mukunda dasa (Walter L. Hilton), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Mahamantra dasa (Murugayin Doraisamy), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Mahesvara dasa (Manuel Nieto), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Mt. Kailasa devi dasi (Mary Ellen Kasny), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Nandarani devi dasi, 28 March 1978, Sri Lanka
  • Nilachala devi dasi (Nancy Newkum), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Nada devi dasi (Nadine Modarelli), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Nityalila devi dasi (Nisha Bernard), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Nitai Gauranga dasa (Neil Bronson Hammari), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Nitaipada Kamala dasa (M. Nurmala Chandran), Sri Lanka
  • Navadvipa dasa (Nanda Dulal Saha), March 1980, India
  • Niskinchana dasa (Nato DeLopaso), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Narmada devi dasi (Nee Chanmala), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Nityananda dasa (Neo), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Nitya Siddha dasa (Nagentharan Krishnan), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Nadia devi dasi (Nagarani Sinnathamby), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Nitya Rupa devi dasi (Nazaria Flores), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Nirguna devi dasi (Nachiyar Amal), 1982, Vrindaban
  • Bhakti Sri Krishna Chaitanya Yogananda Paramahamsa Goswami (Walter Bernstengel), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Parasurama dasa (Eric Peden), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Pranavananda dasa (Orlando Damascus), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Paramahamsa dasa (Phil Jones), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Paramatma dasa (Perry Tan), 10 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Purushottamah dasa (Paul), 28 January 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Parambrahma dasa (Pat), 28 January 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Parikshit dasa (Purusottaman), Singapore
  • Panchatattva dasa (Percival Bugaria), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Pradyumna dasa (Pely Conception), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Parabhakti devi dasi (Perlita Bautista), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Paramishvara dasa (Paul Macabasco), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Prahlad dasa (Prahlad Marc Jackson), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Prataparudra Maharaja dasa (Patrick Charles), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Pasupatinath dasa (Patrick Sean Rich), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Pravacharya dasa, Berkeley, California
  • Ripughna dasa (Richard Bock), 24 March 1978, Mayapur
  • Rama dasa (Robert Butler), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Renuka devi dasi (Robin Carney), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Rishabhadev dasa (Richard Pelkowski), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Raksavana dasa (Ray Henderson), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Rasa Lila devi dasi (Lisa M. Aziz), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Ramananda Roy dasa (Rohit Juneja), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Ramanreti devi dasi (Ronila Ubal), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Radhanath dasa (Renee Reyes), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rasalila dasa (Roser Villamor), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rajavidya dasa (Rodulfo Pahamotang), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rama Krishna dasa (Renaldo Alo), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rasabihari dasa (Raja), 22 October 1978, Sri Lanka
  • Radha Krishna dasa (Rogelio Uy), 11 February 1979, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rahugana dasa (Raoul A. Goff), 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Radha Kunda dasa (Randy Hutchinson), 15 August 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Radha Govinda dasa (Richard Wurst), 9 September 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Rantideva dasa (R. Rajalingama), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Rajaram dasa (R. Ramakrishnan), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Radha Krishna devi dasi (Mother Ratha), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Rasapurna devi dasi (Mother Rasamma), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Ragupati Ram dasa (Romulo Barrera), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Ramayan dasa (Romeo Olvina), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rupa Goswami dasa (Rolando Augustin, Jr.), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rohini devi dasi (Rosemarie de Dios), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Radha Gopal dasa (Robert Montoya), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rupanuga dasa (Robert Masbao), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rupa Ragunatha dasa (Roberto), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Raghavananda dasa (Ranjan Chatterji), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Radhika devi dasi (Robin Lynn Moria Golden), Seattle, Washington
  • Rishi Kumar dasa (Robert Bernard), Seattle, Washington
  • Rudra dasa (Rolando Cruz), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rudrani devi dasi (Ruth Dongallo), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Radha devi dasi (Rosa Rodriguez), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Rajarsi dasa (Ricardo Saaverda), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Radha Ramana dasa (Rico Dimaculangan), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Raghunath dasa (Romeo Soto Mayor), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Radha Gokulananda dasa (Florentino Aya-Ay), 24 May 1981, Manila
  • Rantidev dasa (Ronnie Johnson), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Rasa devi dasi (C.P. Rema), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Rasikananda dasa (Ronnie Yam Chee Seng), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Ramlila dasa (Rose Vello Narayana), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Rukmini devi dasi (Regina L. Nadac), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Raivata Manu dasa (Rod Villardarez), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Rishabhadev dasa (Robin Charles Stern), 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Rathyatra dasa (Robin Donald Mackey), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Rasabihari devi dasi (Riza), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Rohini Kumar Goswami (Robert Milton Baggs), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Satya devi dasi (Sarah Smiley), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Srimad-Bhagavatam dasa (Sam), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Shakuntala devi dasi (Shirley Miller), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Surangi devi dasi (Susan Stein), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Srisa devi dasi, 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Stritama devi dasi (Stephanie Sherrit), Portland, Oregon
  • Satyabhauma devi dasi (Sallee Lock), 27 August 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Shyamasundara dasa (Samuel Kho), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Shyamasundari devi dasi (Tammy Reyes), 11 February 1979, Cebu, Philippines
  • Sundar Gopal dasa (Sundar s/o Govindasamy), 7 March 1979, Mayapur
  • Srivasa dasa (Steven C. Sims), 13 March 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Surabhi devi dasi (Susan Pearson), 30 March 1979, Seattle, Washington
  • Sadhana Bhakti dasa (Steven Casey), 8 April 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Shalagram Shila devi dasi (Sharon Marshall), 8 April 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Shyamasundar dasa (Syamakund dasa), 9 September 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Shyamasundari devi dasi (Bhaktin Saraswathy), Singapore
  • Shalagram Shila dasa (R. Shivalingam), Sri Lanka
  • Sachinandan dasa (A. Satchitanaritham), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Sachisuta dasa (P. Selvaratnam), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Santi Mata devi dasi (Mother H. Shanthi), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Shiva Ram dasa (Satya Singh), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Sachi devi dasi (Shirley Masbad), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Sadhu Shastra Guru dasa (Steve Murani), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Sikshastaka dasa (Smokey Babhy), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Shivananda dasa (Sellvan), 3 January 1980, Mayapur
  • Sridhama dasa (Stephen Scott Kemnitz), Seattle, Washington
  • Sadhananda dasa (Sanatana)
  • Sankirtan devi dasi (Zurine Veloso), 17 May 1981, Cebu, Philippines
  • Shyamananda dasa (Skip Brown), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Sudarshan Chakra dasa (Steven Rosenthal), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Satchitananda dasa (Saranga Sherman), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Sadhanandini devi dasi (Sukla Sherman), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Sacci Suta dasa (Steven Helenius), 24 August 1981, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Skanda dasa, Berkeley, California
  • Sachimata devi dasi (Sommulama Charidriah), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Sanat Kumar dasa (Suresh Krishnan), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Sukadeva dasa (Subramaniam Krishnan), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Satarupa devi dasi (Sue Laurel Walker), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Shaktiman dasa (Walter Ray Cloud), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Sudarshan devi dasi (Sharon Fay), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Shivananda Gosvami (Veerasingam Kumarakunasingam), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Tripad Vibhuti dasa (Tom Lorence), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Tamera devi dasi (Tammy De Rooy), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Tulasi devi dasi (Teresa Kehr), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Tota Gopinath dasa (Thomas Chavez), 28 September 1978, Hong Kong
  • Tulasitosika devi dasi (Trisha), 26 November 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Trailokyamata devi dasi (Teresa), 26 November 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Trilokatma dasa (Tim Seal), Berkeley, California
  • Tapana Misra dasa (Tom), 30 May 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Titikshava Karunika dasa (Thomas Donald Plummer), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Talavan dasa (Tara Singh), Singapore
  • Tulasi Mala dasa (Thiagarajan), 1980, Mayapur
  • Tulsi Manjari dasa (William Norman Munjar), 10 February 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Triveni devi dasi (Theresa Anne MacKenzie), 8 March 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Tilaka dasa (Emmanuel del Villar), 24 May, 1981, Manila
  • Tapasya dasa (Thialan Letchumanan), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Tapanacharya dasa (Thomas F. Gallery), 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Tulasi dasa (Len Rogers), 26 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Tribhuvanath dasa (Trevor James Murray), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Tripurari devi dasi (Teresa Pummill), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Tota Gopinath Paramahamsa Gosvami (Thomas Chavez), 17 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Srimati Uma devi dasi, 18 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Vrindaban Chandra dasa (Eric Johanson), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Vishnuloka dasa (Vince Butler), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Vraja Lallana devi dasi (Veronica Perry), 6 June 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Visvamohana dasa (Bob Calhoun), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Vaikunthavasi dasa (Bernie Okonek), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Visalavadari devi dasi (Vicki Okonek), 27 August 1978, Seattle, Washington
  • Vaikunthasundari devi dasi (Vivian Ubal), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Vishnudutta dasa (William Simeon), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Vaisista Muni dasa (Warlito Lim), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Vishnu Saharasra Nam dasa (Vicente Endique), 2 November 1979
  • Vasudeva dasa (Francois), 13 March 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Vishnupad dasa (Rajasingham), 30 March 1980, Sri Lanka
  • Vamanadev dasa (Ver Versosa), 17 October 1980, Cebu, Philippines
  • Vrindadevi dasi (Evelyne Marandon), 1 February 1980, Berkeley, California
  • Vaijayantimala (Vicki Kemnitz), 15 July 1979, Portland, Oregon
  • Vrindavana Chandra dasa (Walter Bernstengel), 23 May 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Vrindaranya dasa (Vaithilingam Kullandevel), 27 September 1981, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Vrindaban Lila devi dasi (Bahnumathi Darmarajah), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Vaikunthanath dasa (Virgilio Flores), 17 November 1981, Manila
  • Varaha dasa (William Miers), 28 May 1982, Mt. Kailasa, California
  • Vrindaban Chandra Goswami (Eric Johanson), 10 April 1983, Berkeley, California
  • Yugadharma dasa (Robert Carreras), 23 May, 1978, Berkeley, California
  • Yamunacharya dasa (Jesse Deguzman), 20 September 1978, Cebu, Philippines
  • Yamuna devi dasi (Janet A. Sims), 13 March, 1979, Berkeley, California
  • Yashodamaya devi dasi (Joanne Apasia Masi), 1 February 1981, Berkeley, California
  • Yamuna devi dasi (Jeyalakchumy d/o R.), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  • Yudhamanyu dasa (Joe Fee), 27 December 1981, Berkeley, California
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22 Responses to Srila Prabhupada, His Movement & You

  1. I shall be including sections of this very intelligent, but flawed, commentary in an upcoming article that will be posted on one of our websites. As I told you in 1988, I would read the book that you gave me. I have read, more than once, both of your books, as well as this article. You are close. The quote from Vaikunthanatha, as potent as it appears to be, is still evidence not conclusive proof. Indeed, and somewhat ironically, you have prominently posted in another section of your website, that famous letter you received from His Divine Grace wherein he said that his movement may have gurus given the title of Bhaktivedanta (for their advanced learning and realization in the supreme science) by 1975. This was not realized, however, as we all know. Instead, eleven men–yourself one of them–went, in your own words to me back in the Eighties “way too far.” Nevertheless, misuse of a great science does not render it useless. The rittvik process (and I spell this word exactly as you do, so we have something in common there) in relation to Srila Prabhupada ended on November 15, 1977; the last genuinely initiated disciple of Prabhupada was Mahapurana das, an African-American devotee, at (again, somewhat ironically, although Nityananda prabhu was already in Mississippi by that time) the New Orleans yatra just hours before Prabhupada departed us in manifest form. The real issue here is not rittvik; the real issue is “regular guru, that’s all.” What did that mean? I ask this rhetorically, as I am confident that I know what it means. Similarly, as was revealed in your presence at Topanga Canyon in early December of 1980, the eleven men named on July 9-10, 1977 where not to create any kind of exclusive monopoly based upon their having been given the renewal of the service of rittvik, which had been suspended for a period of time before that summer. I think that you would agree that close is not good enough here. We may put together the pieces of the puzzle in a different chronological order–and that is to be expected–but, when it is finished, all the pieces fit together in one way and one way only. There is one perfect way, and we both agree that the vitiated GBC has not established, nor does it represent, that way. Yet, there arguments have some power to them, especially in terms of pragmatic considerations–Western pragmatism, that is. Indeed, I pick up no dearth of pragmatism in your presentations both in your books and on your website. The issue is not pragmatism itself, as Prabhupada was very results oriented. The issue is the difference between Western pragmatism and Vedic or Vaishnava pragmatism. There is one essential difference between them, and a hint of what that is can be found in Nityananda prabhu’s favorite slogan: Satyam eva jayate.
    One other thing to keep in mind. Kindly do not misread anything personal into this, because it is not intended for any specific initiated devotee (1966-1977) of Prabhupada. We both agree that the GBCs of Prabhupada and his guru deviated in egregious ways. What was the ultimate result thirty years after the first such deviation? Or, rather, how did Lord Chaitanya choose to rectify that situation? It wasn’t via any kind of rittvik arrangement, was it.
    So, I am being stimulated to some extent by what I am reading on your website and in reviewing your books (I have both of them) once again. In due course, it should produce an article that goes into detail on all of these spiritual raw nerve topics. Obviously, I had very little association with His Divine Grace in comparison to your good self; I was only alone with him once for about four minutes. So, you are very blessed, and I admire your spiritual good fortune. It empowers you to carry on, no doubt. Still, you and I have another thing in common that is certainly rare amongst Prabhupada’s actually initiated disciples, viz., neither of us was preached to before coming to the temple and deciding to surrender. I have read your historical account, it was impressive, and I could relate to it. Mine was different, obviously, but the principle was the same. As such, we each stand for something and push something independent of mass opinion and negativity of the enforced conformity. Your version of rittvik–and there are quite a number of them–is different from the others, and that is to be expected, also.
    Once I produce the above-mentioned article (for the first time, I am seriously considering employing the A & A format in doing so), would you like me to notify you of its posting along with a hyperlink? I shall not be offended if you answer this specific query in the negative nor shall I be offended if I do not hear from you at all. We are all meant to reach the stage of sthita-prajna, in which it is certain that His Divine Grace would order us to become diksa-guru, not rittvik. Until then, we are meant to preach to newcomers, stress Prabhupada as their siksa-guru, and keep them in the process at the level of sadhu-sanga. It is an impetus to get very sincere and serious and reach the stage of mahimni sve mahiyate, i.e., drsta evatmanisvare. If we could not or cannot reach even this stage, which is prior to bhava, then what was the meaning of Srila Prabhupada coming here in the first place and training us to become gurus? And he certainly wanted this, as you well know, and as evidenced, if not indeed proved, by his letter to you in 1975.
    Hoping that this meets you and your good wife in good health and cheerful mood, I beg to remain . . .
    Your eternal servant,
    KAILASA CANDRA DASA

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  3. Suvarna says:

    Thank you for this book Hansadutta Prabhu. Very wonderful writing. I am very grateful. Thank you. Your servant Suvarna

  4. Suvarna says:

    is this book available to purchase?

  5. I have no motre copies for saler, you can download the whole text from Nama Hatta, or write to daschan@streamyx.com…… perhaps they have a copy,
    Thank you nfor appriociating my realizations. I do not write for money, or noteriety. I have written according to my experience and heart felt love for Prabhupada

    Your humble servant,
    I shaould have done better,
    But I fell. failed and am very repentant about that, and still working to get up and do the right thing.

    • tarunkrishna das says:

      Haribol ji, may i say Hansdutta ji at least you have said you made mistakes , been open about what went wrong for you, not many from that time have or ever will,..so bless you ji ,..haribol

    • Nilesh Dalal says:

      Hare Krishna prabhuji,
      Please consider to reprint your book not for fame or for glory but to help other innocent jivas from following the bogus gurus. I just discovered your website. But there are others where this message has to be reached. Please help to redirect Prabhupada’s vision in it’s true direction. Senior true devotees like yourself is our only link to the truth.
      Hari Bol.

    • dhaval moradiya says:

      hare krishna
      i want to purchasse of this book …

  6. Martin says:

    Hare Krishna. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

    For many years I have been searching for the audio of the so-called appointment tape of May 28, 1977. Do you have the audio file, and if so, could you please email it to me or post it to YouTube? I have read the transcript and understand that Srila Prabhupada appointed ritviks, but I would like to hear the audio for myself.

  7. William Regular says:

    Hare Krishna!!
    Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

    Thank you very much for your profound realizations. i really felt indebted.. it gives me more light since you personally advice me to read first before i come to visit any ISKCON temple. i will write you someday in regards of this book.
    Again, thank you very much Hansadutta Prabhu

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  9. Lou says:

    Dear Hansadutta Das,
    I remember you in Berkely in 1976 or so. I used to frequent the temple there often. I have not been to an ISKCON temple since then although I occasionally try to keep up on ISKCON news. I am a devotee of Avatar Meher Baba. I have no qualifications to judge but the letter you’ve shared seems to clearly spell out Srila Prabhupada’s wishes. It makes it very clear: “The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada …” It is truly a shame that ISKCON has been divided all these years and I pray your efforts are helpful. Congratulations on your honesty and sincere work.

  10. Probir saha says:

    Jay radha!! I love “krishna” but i love you too.,’prabhupada’

  11. Vishnujana says:

    Hansadutta please accept my humble obeisances as a older Godbrother. I would like to talk to you about the ritvik system and where do you stand with post 1977 ISKCON. I would also like to know if you yourself know about the poisoning of our Spiritual Master A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada by your Godbrothers (perhaps you were aware but did not do anything) as well as your Godbrothers and the heinous acts they have done such as kirtananda and bhakti thirtha and many others. Please write back to me as soon as possible. If you truly following Srila Prabhupada you would allow for us to start a conversation to help this poor lost soul find some happiness. You are one of the last Ritvik Representative of Srila Prabhupada who was chosen by HIM. do not let this go to waste. Rise up Hansadutta and fight for Srila Prabhupada if you are sincere. Do not become clouded by illusion like arjuna at the battle of kurusetra with his family members. Just because they are your Godbrothers does not make it right to let them destroy Prabhupada ISKCON and take so many to hell with them. there are many scattered sects of the ritvik camp around the world with some truly devoted to Prabhupada and others for some materialistic purposes. Are we to let our faith become like the christian faith which is scattered from protestant to catholic to coptic orthodox to Pentecostal? Why do you sit and do nothing? Become a true ritvik and defend Prabhupada order and stop this second poisoning which is being done to Prabhupada Books. They are new devotees that are coming in this movement and many are lost because of the so many ritvik camps as well that they do not want to associate with ISKCON example my self and few friends. All I ask of you from my self is to write back to me so we may talk with my friends on your place and what we can do. Hare Krsna Jai Prabhupada.

    • Vishnujana says:

      Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai.
      Translation: Someone says that I’ve been poisoned. It’s possible.

      Balaram Mishra (?): Hmm?

      Kaviraja: Kya farma rahe hain?
      Translation: What is he saying?

      Srila Prabhupada: Koi bolta hai je koi mujhko poison kiya gaya hai.
      Translation: Someone says that someone has given poison.

      Kaviraja: Kisko?
      Translation: To whom?

      Srila Prabhupada: Mujhko.
      Translation: To me.

      Kaviraja: Kaun bolta hai?
      Translation: Who said?

      Srila Prabhupada: Ye sab friends.
      Translation: These all friends.

      Bhakticharu: Ke boleche, Srila Prabhupada?
      Translation: Who said, Srila Prabhupada?

      Srila Prabhupada: Ke boleche.
      Translation: They all say.

      Tamal Krishna: Krishna das?

      Kaviraja: Ao ko kaun poison dega? Kis liye dega?
      Translation: Who would give you poison? Why would anyone do that?

      Tamal Krishna: Who said that, Srila Prabhupada?

      Srila Prabhupada: I do not know, but it is said.

      Exchange 1 – Mixture of English, Hindi and Bengali (9/11/77)

      Jagadisha: Srila Prabhupada, can you tell us why you want to go on the parikrama? (travelling to visiting holy places)
      Prabhupada: …good paddy.
      Tamala Krsna: This seems like suicide, Srila Prabhupada, this program. It seems to some of us like it’s suicidal.
      Prabhupada: And this is also suicidal.
      Tamala Krsna: Hm. Prabhupada said, “And this is also suicide.” Now you have to choose which suicide.
      Prabhupada: The Ravana (A great demon) will kill and Rama (God) will kill. Better to be killed by Rama. Eh? That Marica–if he does not go to mislead Sita, he’ll be killed by Ravana; and if he goes to be killed by Rama, then it is better.
      [Room Con. Nov. 10, 1977, Vrndavana, India]

      Prabhupada: All right. You take Babaji Maharaja. That will be my going. (“devotees” laugh)
      Krsna dasa Babaji: Jaya. (laughter)
      Tamala Krsna: Yes, the bullock cart will go tomorrow
      Prabhupada: Yes.
      Tamala Krsna: To Govardhana.
      Prabhupada: Yes, other devotees can go. I cannot go.
      Tamala Krsna: No, they’ll go on your behalf, but you will go one day. That we promise you. (“devotees” laugh)
      “Devotee ?”: (under breath) Sati (other “devotees” laugh)
      Prabhupada: All right.
      Tamala Krsna: Our greatest pleasure will be to take you on tirtha-yatra, Srila Prabhupada. We wanted so much to go with you on that.
      Prabhupada: Thank you very much.

      (Vrindavana, India – 10th November 1977)
      http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/paul/08.mp3

      here is the conversation of his final days. You were there werent you? therefore if you knew of this publicly repent and work to fight against your “Godbrothers” and if you sincerely and honestly did not know then research and hear what they did to our Guru Maharaj and understand what you must do.
      http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/paul/prabhupada_poisoned.htm

  12. Krishna Tungal says:

    All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,
    Hare Krishna to all the devotees.

    What Vishnujana Prabhu said is 100000% true. Hansadutta Prabhu, you can do it, we all here to support you..

    HariBol….

    Your servant
    Krishna Tungal

    • Aaca says:

      Dear Jagaddharta Prabhu Thank you for your comments. I beelive that you are correct in your appraisal that we have underestimated world affairs as a causative influence. Srila Prabhupada has given us all the knowledge and perspective to understand the complexities of modern life and how we are entangled in the modes and more importantly how to get disentangled. Srila Prabhupada gives us the tools it is up to us how or when or if we employ them. He nor Krsna will do this as this is our duty to free ourselves. The Demon Kali has his agents both outside and inside of FISKCON. To have them inside ISKCON is impossible for inside ISKCON is where Srila Prabhupada’s vision lies illuminating the absolute truth. FISKCON adherents do not have this vision and so they will cheat us. It is only when we can understand this difference, that is between ISKCON and FISKCON that we can begin to free ourselves. Yes no one comes close to Srila Prabhupada! Nor are they meant to. He is the Acharya of ISKCON no one else. We have to all come together by aligning our visions to his and in order to do this we must understand our predicament within the Geopolitical sphere and to know where the Krsna Consciousness Movement is being compromised, where our own vision has been affected and obscured. Yours in the service of Srila PrabhupadaAdmin

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  16. Hansadutta Prabhu, you are in an excellent position to understand the ritvik issue because you were an ISKCON temple president, a member of the GBC body, a BBT trustee, an “appointed guru,” and a “zonal acharya.” Your booklet is what convinced me, even before “The Final Order” was published.

    Also, no ISKCON leader dares to debate with you. All that they ever do is resort to low-class name-calling!

  17. hansadutta das says:
    September 12, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    I have no motre copies for saler

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